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  1. DeutchOil

    GDT: OILERS @ WPG JETS, TUESDAY OCT 16 @ 6 PM SN

    I'm tired of blaming "size" for our issues. There are smaller teams that do far better than the OIlers. Talent Evaluation, and Circus that is the Red Wine Syndicate saps the heart out of this club. Doesn't matter about "size", when there is no heart.
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    GDT: OILERS @ WPG JETS, TUESDAY OCT 16 @ 6 PM SN

    Could it be that they simply aren't very good? What makes us truly believe that Cags, JJK, Strome, Kassian, Yam, JP, and even Brodziak, Rieder and Lucic belong in the NHL?
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    GDT: OILERS @ WPG JETS, TUESDAY OCT 16 @ 6 PM SN

    I'm noticing that Vancouver beat Pittsburgh tonight ..... without Elias Pettersson. That makes this game hurt doubly bad.
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    GDT: OILERS @ NY RANGERS; SAT OCT 13 @ 11 AM, SNW

    This, for me is the biggest thing that has to change. The Oilers have to be able to evaluate their talent faster, and move the duds before the League figures out they are duds. The Oilers simply can't be the last ones to know, with players THEY see every day, in and out of practice, every shift of every game, at and away from the rink. Had they moved Yakupov and Schultz after their rookie campaigns, the returns would have been a heckuva lot better than mid/late picks. Dozens of others, former first round and EARLY second round picks that simply frittered into nothing, and weren't converted into anything because of lack of accurate and early talent assessment ... before the league caught on. They moved MPS early, and got Perron. NYI moved Griffen Reinhart, and Ryan Strome early, and look what they got for it. Even with non-duds, had they moved Eberle after year two or year three, the return would have been Duschene-esque (the volume and quality of assets that Colorado sapped Ottawa for). Hall would have gotten a defenceman like Larrsson plus HIGH picks (plural) AND prospects (also plural), after his 80 point season or the one after that. What did holding onto any of that get us? Is the organization any deeper as a result of drafting HIGH each and every year for a dozen campaigns? JP and Benson and Bear and Jones need to be evaluated for keeping or moving NOW, while there may still be interest. Yam and his draft class, get this year and next .... then move 'em or play 'em. Other teams seem to be able to get it and get it done ... not this one.
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    GDT: OILERS @ NY RANGERS; SAT OCT 13 @ 11 AM, SNW

    My misinterpretation of your direct quotation (not misquote) was NOT intentional. I had no way of knowing you were talking in the hypothetical future sense in that you used the present tense "can" in a conversation that was talking factual past happenings. How could I have known you were going to throw out hypotheticals when no one else was? I see now (as likely do others - plural) what you were saying, but I still don't know how you know that JP "can" play "brutal[ly]" and still be in the lineup the next night, or if you are just saying that in a wishful/hopeful sense, as in you hope that TM would do that for JP, IF JP were to have a "brutal" game? In any event ..... lets move on.
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    GDT: OILERS @ NY RANGERS; SAT OCT 13 @ 11 AM, SNW

    Nope .... 3 people interpreted your QUOTE exactly the same way (that is quoting you correctly). That means YOU misrepresented your own standpoint by not communicating it well. I wasn't actually trying to argue with you. I thought you might be able to point to some specifics in JP's game that you saw as "brutal" that might be food for thought. I want to know if it is time to move on from him. I am soooooo tired of the Oilers hanging onto guys until there is absolutely NO value in them in trade. They need to start evaluating the talent they have faster, and move on from guys before the whole league doesn't want them anymore. Too many lost trades. Oilers Never come away with the better player.
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    GDT: OILERS @ NY RANGERS; SAT OCT 13 @ 11 AM, SNW

    You said he "still gets dressed to prove himself" ... you implied it was after a brutal game, after which he did not sit. He sat in the press box last year at least a couple times (heck, he was sent down after camp) ..... so it must apply to more recent games. So .... Which game was it that was "brutal" for him that he dressed immediately after, and was given the chance to prove himself without being taken from the lineup?
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    GDT: OILERS @ NY RANGERS; SAT OCT 13 @ 11 AM, SNW

    No ... I asked which game was "brutal"? ... you said he had a "brutal game" ... So ... Which game was "brutal"? He has been sat (last year) as well .... so the notion that he always dresses "to have his chance at proving himself" must be more recent .... otherwise it is untrue.
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    GDT: OILERS @ NY RANGERS; SAT OCT 13 @ 11 AM, SNW

    I didn't say "bad" .... neither did Yuke ..... we said "brutal" ...... there is a difference. Which game in pre-season was Caggiula anything but "brutal"? Which game in the regular seaoson has anyone on the, second, third or fourth line not been "bad".? Where is Strome? And why is he not even being mentioned in these ranting posts against underperforming players ....... he's the one paid to lead ... where is it? My standpoint on Caggiula is, he was signed as an undrafted, overage side show. ..... a stop gap (like 99% of players like him that at some point get an NHL contract). The guy you invest time and development in ... is the guy you drafted with a valuable draft pick. Year 1 and 2 were the years to be patient. This is year 3 ... patience ends. Time to increase expectations and put him into a place to succeed, or trade him, before he has NO value whatsoever.
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    GDT: OILERS @ bruins

    Lucic is a BIG part of that, at 6.5 million, and not taking advantage of that. Lucic is there to support Drai, and is more of an Albatross around Draisaitl's neck ... all the while Draisaitl is being told to learn as much as possible on how to play the game as a Big Man from Milan. Right now ...... before I BAG on Drai too much, I try different things. Switch Lucic and RNH ..... Do it Now. Clearly Lucic can't play with Drai. He can play with McD. Lets see if RNH can play with Drai, and show him how to play a game with effort.
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    GDT: OILERS @ NY RANGERS; SAT OCT 13 @ 11 AM, SNW

    I don't know about the New York game (wasn't around to see it), but of the other two, which was a "brutal game" by JP in your mind? He was given limited minutes. His center (Strome) has been Awful. The defenders behind him terrible. Which of those games was a "brutal game" for him? Caggiula literally disappears for long stretches, and then finds himself on the PP with McDavid (last year). Neither one of them has done anything worthy of sustained praise. Neither has shown anything of consistency from ONE game to ANOTHER. Cags has only been consistent in coming back from press boxings with a crash. JP hasn't responded the same way to benchings. Probably why Cags gets benched and boxed ... it works on him for a short time. Long run ... I go with developing the 20 year old #3 draft pick rather than the 24 year old who never garnered enough interest to be drafted. That's just me.
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    GDT: OILERS @ NY RANGERS; SAT OCT 13 @ 11 AM, SNW

    We wouldn't have a playoff game today .... we're not in a playoff position. Either way, two games ago Cags was sitting. Two games from now, he may be sitting again. When was the last time JP went straight from the Press Box to the Power Play, or to time on a line with McDavid, after sitting due to poor play? Cags has done that lots. Cags is gifted minutes that for some reason JP has to earn (likely simply an age thing), and that's the point. Neither are helping get us INTO a playoff game.
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    GDT: OILERS @ NY RANGERS; SAT OCT 13 @ 11 AM, SNW

    He always has a game or two of bounce back after a press boxing ..... it never ,ever lasts. I will believe he is something, when he actually IS something. Another PC pet. The "sick" excuse has been used so much by this team, I have started to be skeptical about it like ALL of the other overused excuses.
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    GDT: OILERS @ bruins

    One could argue that our chances of winning aren't statistically significantly better with McD. I'd give it a try. Even healthy scratch him to send a message to guys like Draisaitl, who don't seem to understand that they should actually move their feet once in a while before they cash their paychecks.
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    GDT: OILERS @ NY RANGERS; SAT OCT 13 @ 11 AM, SNW

    You Really do have a LOT of faith. Think about the amount of money those players make, on the road, in a city famed as "The City that Never Sleeps" ..... we'll be lucky if they recover from their hangovers to wake up by Tuesday's game in Winnipeg. But, hey, maybe they're all church boys, just raring to go and prove that the last 2 games were in the past, and show the league how good they really are ..... now ...... or was that supposed to happen later? Seems like that promise gets made a lot.
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