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  1. The Fact that you see Russel and Gagner as somehow equivalencies (completely ignoring their respective Histories and the type of player each is) makes it hard to take some of what you say seriously. Tell me about Gagner's history in the NHL and show me how it tells you why you hold him in such high regard? So far you simply ignore it. If you can show me how Gagner's career is similar to Russel's in anything but Game totals, i would be interested to hear it.
  2. I've never wavered on my stance for this year: This year is about getting through. Getting rid of the contracts we can't get rid of. There will be NO movement forward until the MESS of the previous administration(s) are cleaned up entirely. Kris Russel has a very affordable 4M contract, and only this year and next left. He is also a player that could easily be moved (regardless of his NTC) at the deadline for FAR more than the return we would get right now in the Summer. Moving him now, simply for another wish and a prayer at some maybe solution to ONE of at least three holes (without doing anything about goaltending) will likely put the "rebuild" back a year with another nobody, solution for nothing, with a contract that is worse than Russel's. Russel is NO problem. He will be gone at maximum in two years. Two years of solid hockey from him (worst case scenario) is the least of the Oiler's worries. (p.s. Larsson, Klefbom and Nurse's total playoff experience is the ONE season the Oilers made the playoffs in their whole careers - that isn't the same type of playoff experience that Russel brings .... I think you know that).
  3. For me, I'm just anxious to see how this NEW regime works. We have seen a little from Holland so far, and it shows signs of being very different than anything we have seen over the last 13 years. I want to see how Tippet runs his camp. How he puts exhibition rosters, and lines together. How he gives out minutes. How he makes decisions on who makes the team and who doesn't. That is what I am impatient for.
  4. This is a year of "making due" with what we have. I'm okay with that. Holland seems to have a plan, he has earned my patience for this whole season simply because of the miracle he pulled off with the Lucic contract. I'll give the team this year to find that "3c" and "puck moving defender" and "pp quarterback". None of those things are going to be the make or break of this team getting to the playoffs this year. Goaltending is.
  5. And Brodz is just as likely to win a spot on the roster as Gagner. We need a center. Brodz was acquired to replace Letestu.
  6. I find it fascinating that people forget him and a few others. Especially when they start developing an argument for how bad Kris Russell is for the team because of his 4M contract. Add up all the 1 way contracts that don't belong in the NHL, and you have a far better solution "economically" for the team than dealing away the ONE defender the Oilers have with any actual playoff experience. Russell isn't a bad NHL hockey player. He just isn't a bright shiny new toy. First fix the problems on the roster (Cave, Brodz, Manning, Gagner, etc. - about 7.5M in Cap) .... then start tinkering with the players that actually pay their dues.
  7. I understand your semantic use of the word "development" Do you understand mine? We're actually arguing about nothing again. Long Hot days of Summer ........ with no ice or hockey.
  8. You Win. I Lose. Not interested in this argument enough to invest in it. But I still stand by the FACT that NHL is not a "Development League" ... it does not exist to develop players to play at a higher level than the NHL.
  9. It's all good mrtea. I've got lots of respect for you and your opinion. I get the "kept the guard up" bit too. It's probably good practice on the internet. I earned a bit of a tongue lashing ... Cheers is alright.
  10. Also nice of you to accept an apology ...... with a backhand to the chops and a kick to the 'nads ..... That's also interesting "debate team" tactics ..... If you would prefer that I don't acknowledge inadvertently doing you wrong, and just arrogantly muscle on with my point like everybody else, just say so. .... I would think that would be the absolute FIRST thing your "coaches to help posters focus properly when responding to other posters" would teach.
  11. Sorry mrtea. I wasn't responding specifically to you with some of my commentary, but was making more generalized comments towards the entire conversation. I did not mean to make it look like I was misrepresenting your comments. In so doing, I did misrepresent your comments. Again ... apologies
  12. "That some teams choose to "develop" their players in the NHL, rather than more appropriate development leagues, does not make the NHL a "development league."" .. Deutchoil Already addressed this .... you may not have seen this. More later .....
  13. "The semantics you guys are debating are fuzzy and need a little clarifying." mrtea I attempted to add a "little clarifying" to what you said was "fuzzy" and "needed" it ... I will respond to the rest of what you have said a little later when I have more time to digest it.
  14. Yes. But for this year. He will do. it won't do, however, to not have someone like him (with extensive playoff experience) on the roster. Once the team, overall, has more playoff experience, guys like Russell can be moved for what we need (that you clearly identify). This year, we are on a "holding pattern" as we fix the mess that was made in the past. Russell isn't part of that mess. Not really.
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