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I really hope so, but it could just as easily be the end of someone on our bottom pair. Not too excited yet

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Can I be the first to say this spells the end of Jultz in Edm?  Woop woop!!

Oh wouldn't that be great!

All I have heard of the guy is that he hasn't had much ice time. Not much to go on so I'll just hope he displace Schultz.

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Anyone know anything about him? Another RHS defenceman can't hurt

judging by stats and teams looks to be a guy who hasn't been able to put it together at the NHL level.  Welcome to the Oilers lol

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http://thehockeywriters.com/5-teams-who-should-claim-adam-clendening/ 

 

He is an offensive defenceman that has bounced around.  Though his career +/- is okay with the small sample size of games he has played, that has been bolstered by playing on some teams that were doing pretty well without him.

 

He is direct competition for Schultz for the "offensive defenceman we wish we didn't have to play, but do because we have no one else" role.

 

BAM! ... Clendening likely won't be here long ... but Schultz has been given notice "Your presence is no longer required."

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This guy played some solid hockey for the USA in international events like the under 18(winning gold} and the WJC.He was a stand out in their developement program leading all Dmen in points.23 yrs old,his age fits right in with the core.The Oilers might of found something in this guy..Welcome Adam Clendening to OIler Country..!!

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Nurse and/or Reinhart may have to play in the AHL if Klef and Davidson get healthy and we figure out if Clendening is a fit here or not and/or work on a trade.

 

Sekera-Fayne
Klef-Schultz
Davidson-Gryba

Clendening

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Clendening will be a RFA and require a Qualifying Offer of $875,438.

 

He had a great AHL season in 2013/2014 (59P in 74G), but has bounced around on 7 teams since.

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I believe there is also a Glendenning on Detroit, so try not to confuse the two.

 

Hopefully this move pays off.

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well, he's got 5 points in 30 NHL games. Jultz has 9 points in 36 games this year.

 

The new guy can't be worse at defense, and he makes about one fifth of what Jultz makes.

 

When did we start calling guys "offensive defensemen" even though they don't create any offense? Is it just a nicer way of saying that they suck at defense?

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Anyone know anything about him? Another RHS defenceman can't hurt

 

:th_shrug:

 

 

Good move. Indeed can't hurt. Hope you're right on Jultz Ivan. Nice work PC.

 

 

:)

 

 

Can I be the first to say this spells the end of Jultz in Edm?  Woop woop!!

 

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..We dont know absolutely nothing about him and we're happy? and totally assuming he's gonna replace JS?...  :blink:...

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Anyone know anything about him? Another RHS defenceman can't hurt

 

:th_shrug:

 

 

Good move. Indeed can't hurt. Hope you're right on Jultz Ivan. Nice work PC.

 

 

:)

 

 

Can I be the first to say this spells the end of Jultz in Edm?  Woop woop!!

 

...We dont know absolutely nothing about him and we're happy? and totally assuming he's gonna replace JS?...  :blink:...

 

Maybe the reason why some are happy is that we know to much about Schultz.

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Clendening is an offensive defenseman with good puck-moving ability and a solid shot from the point. While he is known for his offensive and ability to transition the puck up ice, Clendening is solid defensively. He doesn't shy away from the physical side of the game and plays with a good deal of intensity. However, Clendening could stand to utilize his intensity and grit more to the benefit of his team. He also needs to keep his feet moving and improve his overall speed.

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Clendening's appeal is mostly in that he's a gamble.  Chances are, he's not going to be very good.  He's a bad skater, and that alone can be enough to sink a player in the way the NHL game is played now.   Having a good shot is also not enough for him to fix our PP.  Hunt has a great shot too but he couldn't help our PP because he just wasn't NHL caliber.  

 

Like any player, I'll cheer for him.  The Ducks never even played him once, but they are a team that is deep in D.  

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From Hockeysfuture:

 

"Talent Analysis

Clendening is an offensive defenseman with good puck-moving ability and a solid shot from the point. While he is known for his offensive and ability to transition the puck up ice, Clendening is solid defensively. He doesn't shy away from the physical side of the game and plays with a good deal of intensity. However, Clendening could stand to utilize his intensity and grit more to the benefit of his team. He also needs to keep his feet moving and improve his overall speed."

 

At less than 1/4 of Schultz's contract value and some intangibles that Schultz has never had, even if he is as bad as Schultz, he will be an overall improvement in the culture of the team just by being paid appropriately to do as little as Schultz does.

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Why do the Oilers keep doing this to themselves?

When will they learn that the last thing we need is ANOTHER inexperiencef defenseman at this point in time?

When will they learn that the 2 most important prerequisites for a defenseman in today's NHL are overall hockey sense and skating ability?

Seriously... It should be obvious by now!

- Klefbom is a top 4 guy because he can skate, and he is smart.

- Sekera is a top 4 guy because he can skate, and he is smart.

- Davidson has been a pleasant surprise because he is a decent skater, and he is smart. He'd be a lock for the top 4 if he was an above average skater.

- Nurse is an excellent skater, and the only thing preventing him from being a legit reliable top 4 guy is the experience needed to be a smarter decision maker.

- Reinhart, Fayne and Gryba are not reliable top 4 guys because of their skating.

- Shultz doesn't have the smarts to keep up with his skating.

And now we just claimed an INEXPERIENCED defenseman without good skating ability, who doesn't have good hockey sense in the defensive zone!

This is not a big risk, so who cares I guess... But what the hell? ...Why can't they target defenders with more than 200 games who can actually skate and have some hockey sense? It doesn't have to be a superstar... Just someone who isn't such a liability in one way or another... Geez!

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 ...Why can't they target defenders with more than 200 games who can actually skate and have some hockey sense? It doesn't have to be a superstar... Just someone who isn't such a liability in one way or another... Geez!

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Because they can't get a sniff at those defenders .... someone else always has a better return to offer.

 

Waiver picks are simple .... and serve the purpose of shaking things up for a bit ... when you have no other recourse.  Schultz needed the competition ... his sense of entitlement has made him worse than at any point in his career thus far.  At the beginning of the year when Klefbom was challenging for his role ... Schultz played decent hockey.  Since coming back from injury, and no competition for his minutes ... Jultz has been atrocious.  

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At less than 1/4 of Schultz's contract value and some intangibles that Schultz has never had, even if he is as bad as Schultz, he will be an overall improvement in the culture of the team just by being paid appropriately to do as little as Schultz does.

Nailed it. Potential PP help, young enough to have potential to improve aspects of his game so he could be a capable defender (unlike Hunt), and not overpaid. 

If it doesn't work out, what do we have to lose? Reinhart and Nurse could benefit from more AHL time. Ideally he practices for a week or two and in the mean time Schultz or Gryba get dealt (if we decide we're not going to extend Gryba) and then we create an opening for him. See how it goes for a few games and if there's not a fit, we place him back on waivers and see which of our lefties can figure out how to play the right side. 

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Zero risk here so decent move.

 

I see him as a warm body to fill a spot when we trade one or two of our current RD. 

 

He's not as good as Schultz, pretty bad skater. consistently gets beaten wide, poor lateral movement and speed. struggles to keep his feet moving. 

 

So he's effectively only good when in the offensive zone, has a good shot so could be a way to help our PP otherwise he doesn't crack the current lineup. 

 

Hunt should not be in the NHL period, and Nurse/Reinhart could use more AHL time. 

 

Reinhart - "crap"

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"He's not as good as Schultz, . "

 

As Good as Schultz?

 

Good and Schultz don't belong together in the same sentence.  He can't possibly be worse/less effective that the version of Schultz that has been playing since returning from injury.

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...Why can't they target defenders with more than 200 games who can actually skate and have some hockey sense? It doesn't have to be a superstar... Just someone who isn't such a liability in one way or another... Geez!

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Because they can't get a sniff at those defenders .... someone else always has a better return to offer.

Waiver picks are simple .... and serve the purpose of shaking things up for a bit ... when you have no other recourse. Schultz needed the competition ... his sense of entitlement has made him worse than at any point in his career thus far. At the beginning of the year when Klefbom was challenging for his role ... Schultz played decent hockey. Since coming back from injury, and no competition for his minutes ... Jultz has been atrocious.

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Schultz has one foot out the door already... Who cares? They have him a one year tryout for due diligence, to see if he could improve his shot and hockey sense under McClellan and he has failed. Another young, one dimensional slow skating smaller end inexperienced defender similar to Brad Hunt isn't going to change that.

All this does is make the situation even more inflexible. We should be moving fringe NHL defenders OUT... Not adding more.

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"He's not as good as Schultz, . "

As Good as Schultz?

Good and Schultz don't belong together in the same sentence. He can't possibly be worse/less effective that the version of Schultz that has been playing since returning from injury.

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Yes, he can be... And probably is.

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Windsor, Chiarelli has a proven track record when it comes to building D.  I trust he knows what he is doing. As for his moves here,

 

-Gryba was a great pick-up for what he wanted and he has got just that.  A big bottom 6 who can make it tough to play against. 

-Reinhart the verdict is still out here but PC stated that he wanted to take his time with him...and has.  This could still easily pay off.  He did look good last game . 

-Sekera was more than a solid addition.  A very good # 4.

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Why do the Oilers keep doing this to themselves?

When will they learn that the last thing we need is ANOTHER inexperiencef defenseman at this point in time?

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Yeah eh! ...Are we a hockey team, or some social employment agency?.....You would think PC knows we need every "penny" just in case we find that stud Dman?...Why waste money without letting someone go?......I dont understand this move...Maybe he's throwing his critics a bone for them to chew on, perhaps hoping to buy him some more time..., :th_shrug:    

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He can't possibly be worse/less effective that the version of Schultz that has been playing since returning from injury.

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Yes, he can be... And probably is.

 

Yeah ... you are right ... he probably is.  Doesn't hurt to have a look-see though.

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Why do the Oilers keep doing this to themselves?

When will they learn that the last thing we need is ANOTHER inexperiencef defenseman at this point in time?

When will they learn that the 2 most important prerequisites for a defenseman in today's NHL are overall hockey sense and skating ability?

Seriously... It should be obvious by now!

- Klefbom is a top 4 guy because he can skate, and he is smart.

- Sekera is a top 4 guy because he can skate, and he is smart.

- Davidson has been a pleasant surprise because he is a decent skater, and he is smart. He'd be a lock for the top 4 if he was an above average skater.

- Nurse is an excellent skater, and the only thing preventing him from being a legit reliable top 4 guy is the experience needed to be a smarter decision maker.

- Reinhart, Fayne and Gryba are not reliable top 4 guys because of their skating.

- Shultz doesn't have the smarts to keep up with his skating.

And now we just claimed an INEXPERIENCED defenseman without good skating ability, who doesn't have good hockey sense in the defensive zone!

This is not a big risk, so who cares I guess... But what the hell? ...Why can't they target defenders with more than 200 games who can actually skate and have some hockey sense? It doesn't have to be a superstar... Just someone who isn't such a liability in one way or another... Geez!

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because we are the Oilers. 

Lot's of moral victories, #1 picks and hope but still 30th in the NHL.

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-Sekera was more than a solid addition.  A very good # 4.

I know this was meant to be a compliment but I think he plays higher than #4 on 90% of the teams in the league. I think he'd be a fine #2 under the right circumstances. 

After reading as many articles as I could about Clendening, I'm expecting a better one-timer on the PP but not as strong of a skater as Schultz. Sounds like he's also had some issues with decision-making and what not in the defensive zone. Pairing him with a strong skater could help. And as was previously mentioned, he's younger and cheaper than Schultz. Really hoping we can snag a pick for Schultz soon and see what our D will look like without him. 

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